A lot of CEOs today they’re expected to say the right thing at the right time, the right occasion. There’s a tremendous pressure on that and that often they have a keynote and thought leadership is a key part about that. But Curtis is absolutely right and asking them what are you passionate about? OK, you have a certain level of expertise, you certainly level of knowledge. I know you sell this stuff. But actually, what she really cares about, and really good thought leadership combines both the credible content with the passion and that’s why I think conferences, webinars, getting back to this debate format, getting back to the conversation. Post COVID is really helpful for thought leadership because it’s bringing back the stories. It’s bringing back the human passion. It’s bringing back the element that brings it to life. Good thought leadership is only a platform for a great conversation. It’s never an end in itself.